By Paul Jay
PAUL JAY: Welcome back to Reality Asserts Itself on The Real News Network. I’m Paul Jay, and we’re continuing our series of discussions with Stephen Cohen. And his biography is down below the video player, and you really should watch the first few segments, anyway, and you’ll get where we are.
Thanks for joining us again.
STEPHEN COHEN: Thank you.
PAUL JAY: In ’58 you seem a little oblivious to the Soviet Union as the existential threat. Like, in your conversation there, your story, you’re not going to a place that’s out to dominate the world. I mean, you don’t seem to have the Cold War psyche. Is that true?
STEPHEN COHEN: I don’t know. Maybe I was too busy chasing girls, maybe, down in Kentucky. People were too busy hating on blacks for me to focus on the communist threat. Though I should say that at the high school in this town, Owensboro, Kentucky, ROTC was obligatory. High school. It was also obligatory when I got to Indiana University. So remember these times. ROTC wasn’t an option. It was obligatory. If you stayed in college after two years and did four years, you got commissioned as a second lieutenant in the army. It was a way of the army getting…